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On November 22nd tons of education bloggers blogged their ideas for real education reform. Paula White has published a huge list of those who participated in this event here: You Want Ideas? We Have Ideas!
@anderscj but tell Postman et.al that educational tendency about which they speak is a problem for western society: what does that tell us?less than a minute ago via webDeborah Rockstroh debrockstroh
For me, in the end it has cost me at least two jobs, led me to seek two different positions, and has nearly driven me out of the classroom. Problem is, I have this extremely strong desire to take the classroom with me.
I am going to repeat this quote here in its entirety because I think it is extremely important and relevant:
"In class, try to avoid telling your students any answers, if only for a few lessons or days. Do not prepare a lesson plan. Instead, confront your students with some sort of problem which might interest them. Then, allow them to work the problem through without your advice or counsel. Your talk should consist of questions directed at particular students, based on remarks made by those students. If a student asks you a question, tell him that you don't know the answer, even if you do. Don't be frightened by long stretches of silence that might occur. Silence may mean that the students are thinking. Or it may mean that they are growing hostile. The hostility signifies that the students resent the fact that you have shifted the burden of intellectual activity from you to them. Thought is often painful even if you are accustomed to it. If you are not, it can be unbearable." Postman & Weingartner
How many people, if you told them you were doing this in your classroom, would think this kind of pedagogy is akin to a teacher not doing their job? How many of those people are fellow teachers? How many of them administrators? I suspect many. Of course, they would be wrong. It is very difficult to do this mindfully. Teachers have to train themselves to hold back. As an undergrad I was always told to give 30 seconds wait time after asking a question. In graduate school I was told to try 2-3 minutes and see what happens. 30 seconds is hard enough when you are leading a class discussion but 2 or 3 minutes feels like a lifetime but almost always produces amazing results. Try it sometime. Then, when you get used to trying 2-3 minute wait times try what Postman and Weingartner suggest here.
I love this suggestion! Everyone needs a partner, especially if you are going to try to subvert the system. You do something that looks and sounds crazy to others and they are likely to write you off as a liability. If you and a partner do it in unison it can cause people to think twice about the logic in what you are doing.
"A grade is as much a product of the teacher's characteristics, ability, and behavior as of the student's." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
"What would you do differently if you acted as if your students were capable of great achievements?" Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
Why do we in the western world place so much emphasis on winning? Why do we think learning situations have to have winners and losers? This is what struck me the most about this video of a teacher who after seeing Sugata Mitra's TED Talk about self-organizing learning environments decided to try a similar strategy in his class. In none of the examples Mitra gives is there any mention of competition. But, somehow the "American" version displayed here seems to assume that student-centered learning must be structured as a game:
I believe the authors were speaking primarily about television, film, and radio here given the date of publication but this ought to extend exponentially to today's connective digital media. How anyone can still ignore it is beyond me.
"The invention of writing produced a chain of more or less radical reactions at almost every level of society." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
Sounds like history is repeating itself. Web 2.0 in conjunction with open and wide access to information online is undercutting the need for textbooks in schools or even for schools to be places where students come to get information. It is also undermining the television broadcast business, the newspaper business, and every other institution that has any claim to be a publisher or broadcaster of some sort. We see this with the "To Catch A Predator" scare tactics used by NBC. We see this with the Texas Board of Education in their decisions about curriculum. We see this with Pearson and other textbook publishers who see the writing on the wall and their eminent demise. This is why there is a push by telecom companies to push for elimination of net neutrality. This very issue is at the heart of so much debate in education today. I've used this clip before but it applies here as well. What the powerful information peddlers like the textbook companies, schools that are heavily knowledge-centered, broadcasters, and print publishers are afraid you will find out is that what they sell--indeed what they have can provide--is nothing more than an illusion caused by a fixed perception. They wish to make an open system closed.
Since I began teaching ten years ago I have almost always run into students who like to call me "Mister Anderson" referring to the way Agent Smith addresses Neo in the Matrix.
I am going to be bold here and say that in some ways this may be a slightly self-fulfilling prophecy. While Neo liberated people from a world that was not real, a world comprised of only digital illusion, I aim to liberate people from the illusion of the propriety of information. It has always been my purpose and the reason I continue to work so hard. It is the reason I do Twitter Book Club. It is the reason I do Weekly Tech Tips. It is the reason behind most of my interactions with teachers both in the schools where I work and at conferences where I speak. My work is not as theatrical as The Matrix but it is a fun personal imagination adventure to use Neo as a metaphor for what I aim to do. Essentially, this is what the aim of progressive educators out to be. Wesley Fryer always cites his friend Marco Torres as using the phrase, "Who are your Yoda's?" I am more interested in who are your Neo's?
"Once they have become literate, most people have intellectual and emotional powers that are irrevocable." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
I believe this is true about critical thinking skills as well. Once someone is taught how to be mindfully skeptical it is a skill that cannot be revoked.
"Being literate in the process of any medium (language) leaves one at the mercy of those who control it." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
Which is why it is critical for our students to learn how to take control of and be able to produce their own digital media.
"in order for a perception to change one must be frustrated in one's actions or change one's purpose." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
This is why it is so hard to be a change agent in a school (or other established system). Agents of change are the ones who rock the boat, they are the ones that point out (and sometimes create) frustration in another person's actions that requires this perception change. This change agent can be a teacher, principal, student, parent, or community member--really anyone can be a change agent. Problem is, if this is your job you are going to make a lot of people angry if you are successful. But, it is a catch 22. You may be ridden out of town for bringing this frustration upon the people you work with. The same is true of students. How many students are transferred to an other school for being disruptive? How often does that student force a teacher to reconsider why there was disruption in their classroom? How often, when seeing teacher perception as part of the problem, has a progressive administrator acted in a way that was simply perceived as "coddling the bad kids?"
In my first full-time teaching position I had a lot of students who tended to become "art students" because they found the learning environment in my class one of the only ones where they were not constantly viewed as being the "disruptive jerk." This didn't mean that I was necessarily any better than anyone else with classroom management (in fact, to the vocal majority at that school who viewed any classroom noise a sign of misbehavior a weakness I was definitely perceived as having serious deficiencies in this area). I eventually left that position for a number of reasons but one big reason was this issue. Teachers who had these "jerks" in their classrooms who always saw them as needing "punishment" saw me as being easy on them because I never wrote detentions for them and never sent them to the office for discipline. I didn't think that was what they needed. These kids were smart kids, just had the wrong environment for them 6/7 hours of the day. But no, something must have been wrong with my classroom management style because I didn't discipline these kids. In fact, I never saw the need to discipline kids so long as we established a mutually open and honest relationship with each other. I left that school when in a meeting with the principal, he told me, "There is no one school that can possibly serve the needs of all students. Some students we just have to let go as lost causes." This has stuck with me and probably will stay with me for the remainder of my career. While what he said was probably true for most schools, making this kind of declaration means giving up on our obligation to serve all who wish a public education. I have always found this attitude rather negligent albeit practical. That principal had accepted the system as unalterable for these "problem" students. While I believe he felt the first part of this statement to be true he also felt it was impossible to change the perception of the other teachers, to convince them to listen to their students and know what their needs were.
I have often thought this myself. In fact. I think we should reward students who find clever ways to cheat the system. First, it points out flaws in the system, and second, it surely demonstrates a highly sophisticated ability. I also suspect that a lot of students who do find clever ways to cheat do so not so much because the content is too hard for them but because it is the only way to make it interesting. Either way, cheating ought to be seen as an indicator of a failure on the teacher's part as much as a misbehavior of the student.
"Administrators are another curious consequence of a bureaucracy which has forgotten its reason for being." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
@anderscj are you quoting "teaching as a subversive activity"? so sad so little has changed since it was written so long ago.less than a minute ago via webDebby Kurti debbyk
"the study of language is the study of our ways of living, which is to say our ways of perceiving reality." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
I think it is least visible when it is your native tongue, but when you are immersed in an environment where the language being spoken is not your own it is perhaps the most visible environment.
What about the expression, "There just are no words to describe it?" Wouldn't the existence of this common phrase indicate that this statement is not entirely true? Sure our language has an enormous influence on how we perceive the world but this statement (along with the main thesis of this chapter) is meant to mean we have no perception or thought without language. I think this is not something we can make definitive statements like this about.
This is a powerful argument about the power language has to influence our thoughts and perceptions. It is perhaps the reason why we have a two-party system of politics in the U.S. I think Bill Maher sums up the result of this quite nicely:
Regarding language, I believe Postman and Weingartner are in this chapter making the relationship between thought and language a closed system when it should be an open one.
"The ability to learn turns out to be a function of the extent to which one is capable of perception change." Postman & Weingartnerless than a minute ago via Twittelatoranderscj anderscj
Now we enter into a realm I am very familiar with. There are so many examples of aesthetic philosophy and critical theory regarding art appreciation that speak to this exact notion. Given this, one must ask, "Does it really matter what I meant to convey?" Statements like, "That's not what I meant!" are often made as a referendum on the misconceptions of others who interpret differently. However, "That's not what I meant" should be seen rather as an inability for the person to convey their or create a shared meaning. This then also brings into question the nature of reality. For instance, are you who you are or how people perceive you? Could there be two you's? The you who you know and the you who other people perceive may be two different people. Which one is the real you?
When I was a college sophomore I vividly remember getting into a heated argument with a philosophy professor who made these same statements about the nature of thought and language. He insisted that all thought is done in words and wanted us to establish that as a fact in order for him to move on to his next point which would build on that premise. This professor would come in to class each day, sit down in his chair, put his feet on his desk, and proceed to have a "conversation" with us about philosophy. This "conversation" almost always consisted of him talking to himself. He talked an awful lot, rarely gave any wait time, and quite frankly I don't think he cared about whatever responses we might have given to the questions he raised in his philosophical self discourse. When I stated that I would like to challenge the notion that all our thoughts are verbal he was inquisitive but noticeably agitated.
Take, for instance, music. How often do we get a tune stuck in our heads and think A, C sharp, B, etc. No, we think the sound. Now, you could say that this comprises a language of music but it also comprises simple sounds. The same could apply for other noises. It is not as if we don't hear sounds we have no names for or words to describe them. Having words to describe them makes it easier for us to identify them in our environment but their perception does not require a word for it's perception. The same is true for visuals. How often do we see a pattern or a color scheme and just get the visual thought? How often do we think in pictures?
If we have to have a language to think, how would anyone learn a language? Also, how do we describe the obvious behavior of infants or dogs? When I brought this up in college with my professor I remember him sitting and thinking for an uncomfortable length of time after which he dismissed the idea just by saying, "No, I think all thought is verbal." Then he went on with whatever self-talk he was going to have. While I disagree strongly with what Postman, Weingartner, and my former philosophy professor have to say about the nature of thought I completely agree that language has tremendous power to influence how we think. My objection to their "closed" view here by no means is meant to degrade their argument about the power of language to shape our perceptions.