"It is only when other people, adults, start trying to control their learning and force their understanding (cont) http://tl.gd/6s5ode
When I read this quote I can't help but think of what Gary Stager says about never feeling like he needed to control students, even when working with students in prison. I can't seem to find the clip where Stager says this explicitly but the following one gets at the gist of this mindset:
"Isn't there something to be said for asking, whenever possible, questions that can be answered without (cont) http://tl.gd/6s5rpt
"I doubt very much if it is possible to teach anyone to understand anything, that is to say, to see how (cont) http://tl.gd/6s62a1
This, I believe, is one of the few core issues where I find fault with UbD.
"We don't have to make human beings smart. They are born smart. All we have to do is stop doing the things that make them stupid." Holt
This quote, after I tweeted it, quickly became the single most retweeted of all the Tweets I have every posted. That says something doesn't it about the truth in this statement?
"The words change little, from bad and stupid to 'culturally disadvantaged' and 'learning disabled.' The (cont) http://tl.gd/6sltjn
This is also true of most other professions. Very few people ever accept responsibility for the failure of others but they are often ready to accept responsibility for the accomplishments of others. How many times have you seen a doctor accept responsibility for the death of a patient? How many times have you seen them take credit for saving their life? How many times have you seen a lawyer accept credit for loosing a court case? How many times have you seen them take credit for winning one? The same is true of parents, CEOs, politicians, etc.
"We did more than enough harm in school when we thought we were only teaching facts. If the day comes when (cont) http://tl.gd/6uo31r
It has always bothered me when I hear an educator say something along the lines of, "we have to teach students how to learn." In essence, isn't this like saying that we need to teach them how to become intelligent? Hasn't this day already come?
"The mind and spirit, like the body, will heal itself of most wounds if we do not keep tearing them open to make sure they are healing."Holt
Ok, I am slow. I am reading a revised edition of Holt's 'How Children Fail' and didn't realize that 1/2 of what (cont) http://tl.gd/6uo9t0
Most of the best quotes from this book come from the annotations added in 1982.
"Practice is something you do for yourself, to get better at something you want or need to do. Drill you do for other people" Holt
RT @anderscj: "Practice is something you do for yourself, to get better at something you want or need to do. Drill you do for other people"
"Children who have been led up to answers by teachers' questions are later helpless unless they can (cont) http://tl.gd/6v8bhd
I love the quote at 4:20 on this video:
"a better way to do it is by having them discover for themselves, by experiment"
@anderscj Holt, Gatto, Illich, ... can we reconcile thinkers with institutionalized public education system? With standardized curriculum?
@tomfullerton ? we should be asking is whether we should even care about standardizing curriculum and how do we push back against it?
@anderscj Well, I've never been asked the question :) If you ask me, I'd say we don't need curriculum. or testing. but I've not been asked
@anderscj So, do each of us make decisions individually until the collective has sufficient critical mass to make systemic change?
@tomfullerton I think the answer is, be subversive.
@anderscj Question I was trying to articulate to you earlier was whether inquiry learning was incompatible with standardized curriculum?
@tomfullerton depends on how you define 'inquiry learning' and whether you think standardized curriculum=standardized pedagogy.
@tomfullerton for instance, does standardized curriculum mean we have to all start at the beginning and work our way to the end?
RT @anderscj: So we must be aware of line between providing opportunities for discovery and synthetic 'discovery' sessions?
@JillBromen not sure you can always separate those...after all, even synthetic discovery sessions can be authentic
@anderscj touche! Guess by synthetic I meant 'discovery' sessions where we guide to the 1 answer we want vs. allowing many child may find
@JillBromen I think the key, and something most teachers are not trained to do, is being aware of what discoveries students are making...
@JillBromen ...discoveries beyond what we are in-tuned to or are trying to lead them to.
@anderscj yes- Those are the authentic discoveries :)
"We must not assume that if we did not teach these facts no child would ever learn them." Holt
RT @anderscj: "We must not assume that if we did not teach these facts no child would ever learn them." Holt
@anderscj Agree. We must keep challenging our teaching toward how to find, use, & discern facts vs. supplying all of the facts
"We must recognize that children who are dealing with a problem in a very primitive, experimental, and (cont) http://tl.gd/6v8skj
"knowledge which is not genuinely discovered by children will very likely prove useless and will be soon forgotten." Holt
"Knowledge which is not genuinely discovered by children will very likely prove useless and will be soon forgotten." Holt \via @anderscj
"it would never have made any fundamental changes in the way ____ was taught in school as long as teachers (cont) http://tl.gd/6v91nc
In this quote, he is talking about new ideas in the math curriculum but I left out the subject language because I believe it applies more broadly. The same is true for teacher-learners as it is for student-learners with regard to agency. As a technology integration specialist I have found the suggestive approach to be far far more effective than the carrot and stick approach that I often have been told by administrators that they have to use.
"This is the only kind of educational research that will ever actually improve education—research done by (cont) http://tl.gd/6v92m5
@anderscj That is the kind of inquiry I engage teachers in.
That is awesome Tom!
"Those teachers who want to use their own classrooms to find better ways of teaching, as I did, should have (cont) http://tl.gd/6v948r
"A child learns, at any moment, not by using the procedure that seems best to us, but the one that seems (cont) http://tl.gd/6v968l
"The more aware we are of the structural nature of our own ideas, the more we are tempted to try to (cont) http://tl.gd/6v979g
"(1) Children do not need to be 'taught' in order to learn; they will learn a great deal, and probably (cont) http://tl.gd/6v9emc
"(2) Children are enormously interested in our adult world and what we do there." Holt
"(3) Children learn best when the things they learn are embedded in a context of real life" Holt
"(4) Children learn best when their learning is connected with an immediate and serious purpose." Holt
@anderscj Re Holt.. great quotes so far :)
@whatedsaid yeah, the end of this chapter is a gem...producing some interesting discussion too.